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		<title>By: Rennie</title>
		<link>http://girlgetstrong.com/2009/08/20/the-surprising-secret-that-may-be-keeping-you-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-6024</link>
		<dc:creator>Rennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article - and especially the links. So many times people just repeat what they hear.  Well researched, girls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article &#8211; and especially the links. So many times people just repeat what they hear.  Well researched, girls!</p>
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		<title>By: Fitness Protection Program</title>
		<link>http://girlgetstrong.com/2009/08/20/the-surprising-secret-that-may-be-keeping-you-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-6018</link>
		<dc:creator>Fitness Protection Program</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Carol - you are absolutely right.  Lisa Lillien also said that larger companies, in her experience, tended to be closer to the stated numbers and that she believed it was due to the money they spend on lab testing. Her point on the large inaccuracies was that she believes they tend to be small mom-and-pop-type companies that aren&#039;t *trying* to be dishonest, but that don&#039;t have the money to spend on testing. Fair enough. But the fact is, that in her example of a company-claimed 90 calorie &quot;diet&quot; cookie that turns out to be 300 calories, placing blame is less important than the simple awareness on the part of the consumer that they may be getting more calories than they think.

Second, absolutely as Carol says, food companies COULD be 20% under. But the chances of that?  In the race to have the best tasting, lowest (stated) calorie treats, it is not likely that the numbers are going to come in UNDER the stated number.  As a matter of fact, in our discussions with a food industry source, companies are quite aware of the leeway afforded and some take full advantage.  And it&#039;s not illegal, it&#039;s allowed. And that&#039;s fine. But we should know about it when we make our buying decisions.  And that&#039;s where Girlgetstrong feels strongly: open and honest communication of the facts on the label. If there is the potential for a difference, just state it. People can make up their own minds.

I guess the biggest point is this: as consumers, we need to be aware. There needs to be transparency.  And if there is a chance that a product that I&#039;m buying has up to 20% MORE calories than stated, we should all know that, right?  Because for people counting every last calorie, this is not just an &quot;error tolerance&quot;, it&#039;s the difference between losing weight - or not.  It can be very discouraging and debilitating to one&#039;s self confidence to think you are doing everything right, but not see a difference on the scale or on your body shape, when you are trying so hard.

Thanks for some great thoughtful insight, Carol! Talking about this issue is the best way to educate people.  We sure appreciate the time you took to add your comment :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Carol &#8211; you are absolutely right.  Lisa Lillien also said that larger companies, in her experience, tended to be closer to the stated numbers and that she believed it was due to the money they spend on lab testing. Her point on the large inaccuracies was that she believes they tend to be small mom-and-pop-type companies that aren&#8217;t *trying* to be dishonest, but that don&#8217;t have the money to spend on testing. Fair enough. But the fact is, that in her example of a company-claimed 90 calorie &#8220;diet&#8221; cookie that turns out to be 300 calories, placing blame is less important than the simple awareness on the part of the consumer that they may be getting more calories than they think.</p>
<p>Second, absolutely as Carol says, food companies COULD be 20% under. But the chances of that?  In the race to have the best tasting, lowest (stated) calorie treats, it is not likely that the numbers are going to come in UNDER the stated number.  As a matter of fact, in our discussions with a food industry source, companies are quite aware of the leeway afforded and some take full advantage.  And it&#8217;s not illegal, it&#8217;s allowed. And that&#8217;s fine. But we should know about it when we make our buying decisions.  And that&#8217;s where Girlgetstrong feels strongly: open and honest communication of the facts on the label. If there is the potential for a difference, just state it. People can make up their own minds.</p>
<p>I guess the biggest point is this: as consumers, we need to be aware. There needs to be transparency.  And if there is a chance that a product that I&#8217;m buying has up to 20% MORE calories than stated, we should all know that, right?  Because for people counting every last calorie, this is not just an &#8220;error tolerance&#8221;, it&#8217;s the difference between losing weight &#8211; or not.  It can be very discouraging and debilitating to one&#8217;s self confidence to think you are doing everything right, but not see a difference on the scale or on your body shape, when you are trying so hard.</p>
<p>Thanks for some great thoughtful insight, Carol! Talking about this issue is the best way to educate people.  We sure appreciate the time you took to add your comment <img src='http://girlgetstrong.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://girlgetstrong.com/2009/08/20/the-surprising-secret-that-may-be-keeping-you-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-6017</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually goes both ways. Foods can also be 20% lower in calories, fat, etc. than stated (leeway is allowed due to difficulty in having the kind of accuracy people think exists in food analysis). In my experience working with food companies, the larger ones are more likely to have accurate info because they use a lab to test the food, rather than database analysis. But batches often are slightly different, especially in sodium content, so the numbers in reality are not going to be exactly the same with each batch. And testing every single batch and printing new labels for variations would be economically impossible (that $2 bag of chips would become $10).

Small companies that use database analysis (software), are more likely to have inaccurate info, especially if they do the work themselves rather than having a nutrition labeling professional do it. And some will try to fudge the numbers, but in most cases it&#039;s simply human error, lack of consistency between original recipe and the scale-up quantities for mass production, and/or lack of knowledge on the part of the person doing the analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually goes both ways. Foods can also be 20% lower in calories, fat, etc. than stated (leeway is allowed due to difficulty in having the kind of accuracy people think exists in food analysis). In my experience working with food companies, the larger ones are more likely to have accurate info because they use a lab to test the food, rather than database analysis. But batches often are slightly different, especially in sodium content, so the numbers in reality are not going to be exactly the same with each batch. And testing every single batch and printing new labels for variations would be economically impossible (that $2 bag of chips would become $10).</p>
<p>Small companies that use database analysis (software), are more likely to have inaccurate info, especially if they do the work themselves rather than having a nutrition labeling professional do it. And some will try to fudge the numbers, but in most cases it&#8217;s simply human error, lack of consistency between original recipe and the scale-up quantities for mass production, and/or lack of knowledge on the part of the person doing the analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Living Life with Actionable Purpose &#124; Feed Me I'm Cranky</title>
		<link>http://girlgetstrong.com/2009/08/20/the-surprising-secret-that-may-be-keeping-you-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-6010</link>
		<dc:creator>Living Life with Actionable Purpose &#124; Feed Me I'm Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;The Surprising Secret About Packaged Foods that May be Keeping You Fat&#8221; (8/21/09) here &#8212; Say what?!  Read this one my friends.  Apparently the FDA gives companies quite a bit of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;The Surprising Secret About Packaged Foods that May be Keeping You Fat&#8221; (8/21/09) here &#8212; Say what?!  Read this one my friends.  Apparently the FDA gives companies quite a bit of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://girlgetstrong.com/2009/08/20/the-surprising-secret-that-may-be-keeping-you-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-5995</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Hopefully the number of products that are mislabeled are few.  I wonder how many companies take advantage of the rule on purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Hopefully the number of products that are mislabeled are few.  I wonder how many companies take advantage of the rule on purpose.</p>
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